Uniform Insignia Forum

Hi all herrwiggly here, I thought to make a post regarding pages that start to get updated and then seem to stop amidships. I do realise that there is a lot of hard work to keep the pages up to date, but in the interests of accuracy I feel that when such an error ocurrs it must be pointed out.
Page Slovenia navy updates and then stops halfway through,no enlisted insignia and the former navy has disappeared. The officer ranks middle row are incorect.
Page Sweden only the air force has been updated there is the navy and the amfimbe ( the one that has been renamed from coastal artillery)
page Uk the Royal Marines band page is incorrect, no officer above Lt Col. The Royal Navy flag ranks need updating. The army page warrant officer 3 abolished 1947 this is now warrant officer 2. the warrant officer 2 rank shown is since 1947 REGIMENTAL QUARTERMASTER SERGEANT (RQMS)
Page New Zealand army the rank of Brigadier is still missing
Page Iceland the navy has disappeared and never returned.
Page Togo all 3 services have disappeared.
Page USSR army all the past years have disappeared
Page Netherlannds all the services need updating.
Page El Salvador all 3 services need updating.

I will list others later if I find any more errors, In most if not all the information has been ferreted out by forum members and is readily available but not always in a nice format as this site allows.

You may think from my comments I am not happy with this site on the contrary, I have stated before I believe this to be the best site on the net and I do assure you (the administrators) I do appreciate the effort you make on our behalf. :D :D :D Cheers.

Romania:

Air Forces
Title incorrect, in Romanian it should read: Fortele Aeriene
Ranks:
Captain (paratrooper) rank incorrect, the loop should be square, the same as the rest.
Generals: old style insignia, no longer in service

Ground Forces
Title incorrect!!! The WHOLE of the armed forces is known as "Armata Romana" "Romanian Army". The Ground Forces are known as "Fortele Terestre", i.e. "Ground Forces".
Ranks:
Generally: ALL ranks should be on coloured slides! Exception: PVT 1st Class, Corporal.
Career Sargeant - incorrect background, should be red. Also WO 1st Class
Plutonier (Sargeant First Class) - incorrect, Border Guards are not military, dark green stands for alpine rifles
Second Lieutenant - slide colour incorrect, Legal Services should be dark blue, instead of red
Generals: again, OBSOLETE insignia!

Naval Forces
Title incorrect, it should read: "Fortele Navale" - "Naval Forces"
Ranks:
Admirals: OBSOLETE insignia

Police:
OBSOLETE insignia

Military branch insignia:
"Construction service" should read: technical troops
last two insignia:
Air Force
Paratroopers


HUNGARY

Air Force
Background is ALWAYS dark blue! Insignia of branch is ALWAYS the winged propeller.

Army:
Master Sargeant background incorrect, should be bright blue.
2nd LT: background dark blue

Prison Guard:
pictures missing, no 4-star general rank in the system

Police
pictures missing, no 4-star general rank in the system


Hope this will help :lol:

UK - Royal Navy

The Admiral ranks have changed their insignia, so they have one more star than is shown (Rear Adm has 2, Vice Adm has 3, Adm has 4). New system is shown here: http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/1936.html

The only colour between the gold stripes is red for medical and dental officers - all others are now black.

Admiral ranks, as well as the gold epaulettes with stars, have normal epaulettes with stripes - the same stripes as on the sleeve. Here's an Admiral wearing the type not shown: https://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pa ... ?page=4687

"Able Rate" (the rate below Leading Rate) has shoulderboards with "ROYAL NAVY" on, as here: http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/989489095f.jpg

Ratings in initial training wear brightly coloured epaulettes, like these: http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/989491114f.jpg and http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/988906042f.jpg . There may be different colours for different stages of the training, but I'm not sure on this.

There is a rank of officer below Midshipman, called "Officer Cadet". Insignia is a thin epaulette with a small white rectangle (long from front to back, not shoulder to neck).

Sub-Lieutenants who have not completed their training wear the Sub-Lieutenant single stripe with the Officer Cadet white rectangle, with the rectangle nearer the arm.

Officers of the Royal Naval Reserve from Sub-Lieutenant to Commodore (ranks don't go any higher) have a gold letter R in the loop of their stripes, like this: http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/1002887217f.jpg

Midshipmen and Officer Cadets of the RNR have exactly the same insignia as those of the RN.

Rank can also be roughly determined by the cap badge and brass on the visor (Cdr, Capt and Cdre have gold at the front, RAdm, VAdm, Adm and Adm of the Flt have gold at the front and back), but I don't know enough about this to explain any further.

Proteus wrote:UK - Royal Navy
Admiral ranks, as well as the gold epaulettes with stars, have normal epaulettes with stripes - the same stripes as on the sleeve. Here's an Admiral wearing the type not shown: https://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pa ... ?page=4687
"Able Rate" (the rate below Leading Rate) has shoulderboards with "ROYAL NAVY" on, as here: http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/rn/data/gallery/full/989489095f.jpg

Proteus - Thanks good info. It has been mentioned a couple of times, so hopefully this is the charm. It is/was common practice for RN flag officers and other commonwealth Flag Officer to wear the "sleeve stripes" on shoulder slip-ons. This generally happens on deck jackets or other casual uniforms.
With the Able Rate shoulder slip-ons, do you know if the Ordinary /Junior Rates wear these as well ?
Also don't know if you got my note about Dental Officers ?

Robb Mavins wrote:With the Able Rate shoulder slip-ons, do you know if the Ordinary /Junior Rates wear these as well ?
Also don't know if you got my note about Dental Officers ?

I think that "Able Rate" is the basic rate for serving personnel, and that the others are for people in training. The actual rating would be something like "Operator Mechanic (Warfare)", and the "Able" bit was only used in "Able Seaman", a rating which seems to have been phased out (although there are still people with it, no-one new seems to be being appointed).

As I have copied to you, it seems that Dental officers may have pink/purple stripes, not red.

Latvian Naval Ranks

Are incorrect. Even pictures looks fine, but still incorrect. Here will be reference on resource on web: www.lvnslinga.lv/news.htm . There are E, WO and O ranks with picture and translation in english.

Do you know the new ranks for the Latvian army/air force?

Hi,

Russian Nave page - there is no rank "Fleet Admiral of the Russian Federation". Fleet Admiral (4 stars on shoulders) is highest rank of Russian Navy now.

Hi Everybody!
Chuck Anderson here!!

Iceland's Coast Guard rank insignia is represented on the website, though two (2) ranks are missing. They are:

OFFICERS:
The rank of Captain is missing. Insignia consists of four gold medium stripes, with the curl on the uppermost stripe, (like the British Navy.)

ENLISTED:
Their senior-most Petty Officer rank is missing. Insignia consists of a gold, upright anchor, set above three horizontal gold stripes.


Chuck Anderson
USAFWO1_1975@military.com

[quote="Miklós Lovász"]Romania:


Captain (paratrooper) rank incorrect, the loop should be square, the same as the rest.

Plutonier (Sargeant First Class) - incorrect, Border Guards are not military, dark green stands for alpine rifles


Actually, the paratroopers don't have square loops, they have a different kind of loop (but I guess you already know that from mapn.ro, and this is an old post). Also, question: the Border Guards (graniceri) are not military?

Cypriot National Guard:

The title ib Greek should read: Kypriaki Ethnophroura

The rank insignia is incorrect:
[url]http://forum.uniforminsignia.org/viewtopic.php?t=2322[/url]

pkiseleff wrote:

Miklós Lovász wrote:Romania:


Captain (paratrooper) rank incorrect, the loop should be square, the same as the rest.

Plutonier (Sargeant First Class) - incorrect, Border Guards are not military, dark green stands for alpine rifles


Actually, the paratroopers don't have square loops, they have a different kind of loop (but I guess you already know that from mapn.ro, and this is an old post). Also, question: the Border Guards (graniceri) are not military?

Well, the paratroopers used to have square loops. As to the Border Guard they have ceased to be under the MoD in 1990, when they were transferred tot he Ministry of Interior. Today they are called Border Police and are as civilian as the Romanian Police. More on them:

[url=http://www.mai.gov.ro/index1703.htm]http://www.mai.gov.ro/index1703.htm[/url]

although not much more I'm afraid :-(

Miklós Lovász wrote:

pkiseleff wrote:

Miklós Lovász wrote:Romania:


Captain (paratrooper) rank incorrect, the loop should be square, the same as the rest.

Plutonier (Sargeant First Class) - incorrect, Border Guards are not military, dark green stands for alpine rifles


Actually, the paratroopers don't have square loops, they have a different kind of loop (but I guess you already know that from mapn.ro, and this is an old post). Also, question: the Border Guards (graniceri) are not military?

Well, the paratroopers used to have square loops. As to the Border Guard they have ceased to be under the MoD in 1990, when they were transferred tot he Ministry of Interior. Today they are called Border Police and are as civilian as the Romanian Police. More on them:

[url=http://www.mai.gov.ro/index1703.htm]http://www.mai.gov.ro/index1703.htm[/url]

although not much more I'm afraid :-(

Do you mean the "Politie de Frontiera"? When I saw some of them last year at the airport, they still had military ranks (sergent major, plutonier), and were not yet like the normal Police. Did they become civilian in the mean time? Are the "jandarmi" and the "pompieri militari" going to become civilian too, since they are part of the Ministry of the Interior?

Sorry, I understand now. The "subofiteri" I saw last year were actually from the SRI, and I remember now that the "Politie de Frontiera" are civilian (I find it stupid that they were "demilitarizati"; they still carry weapons, wear uniforms, and have ranks anyway, so the change makes no sense to me). The question about the "jandarmi" and the "pompieri" remains.

Well, first of all, the Border Police were demilitarized in 2003 if memory serves well. And I wouldn't call it stupid, after all, the US police forces also carry guns, have ranks (and military ranks at that!) and wear uniforms but I don't think anybody would call them a military force:-)
As to the other two institutions: the Gendarmerie will definitely remain military institution, for as long as it exists, just like the French Gendarmerie Nationale, the Italian Corpo dei Carabinieri and some other such institutions. The Fire Brigade has now been amalgamated with the Civil Defence to create the Inspectorate for Emergency Situations (Inspectoratul pentru Situatii de Urgenta) which is meant to be demilitarized and placed under the control of the county councils. This latter decision has been in development for the last 4 years or so, but it will still take some time untill it can reach a conclusion.

Russian branch/service insignia for collar and shoulder straps need to be updated as the "laurel crown" was recently discarded altogether for all insignia (in order to achieve better clarity). Общевойсковая эмблема doesn't mean "Ground Troops", even it is/was worn by ground forces - it means "all services emblem". Ground troops recently got a new emblem of their own: a heraldic grenade (with one fire) superimposed on two crossed swords.

Chuck Anderson wrote:Hi Everybody!
Chuck Anderson here!!

Iceland's Coast Guard rank insignia is represented on the website, though two (2) ranks are missing. They are:

OFFICERS:
The rank of Captain is missing. Insignia consists of four gold medium stripes, with the curl on the uppermost stripe, (like the British Navy.)

ENLISTED:
Their senior-most Petty Officer rank is missing. Insignia consists of a gold, upright anchor, set above three horizontal gold stripes.


Chuck Anderson
USAFWO1_1975@military.com

There is one more insignia missing that of COMMODORE insignia consists of one big stripe with the curl on top of it ( like British, Danish navyes).
+ the rank names ar missing too ( you can find them at: http://www.kaldi.is ).

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