Uniform Insignia Forum

while reading the books, I took some notes about any mention made about uniforms. Unfortunatly, I lost a few pages and only have what I had transcribed for a few of them.

Based on what I have, I made the following page:

http://insignias.wikia.com/wiki/Southern_Victory_(Book_Series)

if anyone feels like correcting or adding to it, feel free to do so.

marcpasquin wrote:while reading the books, I took some notes about any mention made about uniforms. Unfortunatly, I lost a few pages and only have what I had transcribed for a few of them.

Based on what I have, I made the following page:

http://insignias.wikia.com/wiki/Southern_Victory_(Book_Series)

if anyone feels like correcting or adding to it, feel free to do so.

Two slight errors I found. Under the CSA covers, you've listed the artillery twice. The second time I think you meant cavalry. Second, you spelled felDgrau felgrau.

SFMRAS wrote: Two slight errors I found. Under the CSA covers, you've listed the artillery twice. The second time I think you meant cavalry. Second, you spelled felDgrau felgrau.

thanks. good catch.

marcpasquin wrote:

SFMRAS wrote: Two slight errors I found. Under the CSA covers, you've listed the artillery twice. The second time I think you meant cavalry. Second, you spelled felDgrau felgrau.

thanks. good catch.

You're welcome. Wish I could help more, but I've never read the books. And my list of books to read is long enough as it is!

Two things that are not very important:
- the first version of the maple-leaf roundel was introduced just after WWII, by 1947 at least (http://www.canmilair.com/schemes.htm; http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/382/Roundel-Round-Up.aspx)
- I'm not sure if custodian helmets (worn by Canadian police until just after WWII) were pith or cork; sources are inconsistent - so "custodian" probably better - tho' if Turtledove calls'em pith, who are we to disagree?

I haven't read Turtledove's books, so any criticism has to be muted, but I've found one of the key aspects of this timeline - that the U.K. would ally itself with C.S.A. - unlikely. British public opinion was so anti-slavery that it not only abolished slavery in the Empire, it interdicted the Atlantic trade with the West Africa Squadron - itself a remote cause of the later Civil War. Tho' Britain's textile magnates wanted cotton they were also themselves fairly liberal in our terms; during the OTL Civil War Britain could at best be described as torn; certainly not pro-CSA. But, as I say, I haven't read the books, so perhaps Turtledove squares this circle.

jrichardn2 wrote:Two things that are not very important:
- the first version of the maple-leaf roundel was introduced just after WWII, by 1947 at least (http://www.canmilair.com/schemes.htm; http://www.vintagewings.ca/VintageNews/Stories/tabid/116/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/382/Roundel-Round-Up.aspx)
- I'm not sure if custodian helmets (worn by Canadian police until just after WWII) were pith or cork; sources are inconsistent - so "custodian" probably better - tho' if Turtledove calls'em pith, who are we to disagree?

I haven't read Turtledove's books, so any criticism has to be muted, but I've found one of the key aspects of this timeline - that the U.K. would ally itself with C.S.A. - unlikely. British public opinion was so anti-slavery that it not only abolished slavery in the Empire, it interdicted the Atlantic trade with the West Africa Squadron - itself a remote cause of the later Civil War. Tho' Britain's textile magnates wanted cotton they were also themselves fairly liberal in our terms; during the OTL Civil War Britain could at best be described as torn; certainly not pro-CSA. But, as I say, I haven't read the books, so perhaps Turtledove squares this circle.

From what I remember, its not really explored and it appears to be something along the line of "sticking it to the yanks". Turtledove is not exactly renown for hard alt-history.